okay… now all you Muslims listen close… plain an simple are son of god
JESUS was a peaceful man…. he did not lead army even in self defence…
example when the Romans came for him he deliberately gave himself up saying
its my time…….think of this…Jesus appears in the bible,tora and the
quran…Mohamed ONLY THE QURAN……….. some may say yah but mohamed came
after Christ… yea i know but guess what not a word of his coming was ever
mentioned NOT ONE……. Are Christ doesnt rape young girls 9 years or
younger….. And what miracles has your Mohamed done what miracles to be
called the son of GOD…. you Muslims have a FALSE SAVIOR…HE MAY have
been a messanger but NOT THE SON OF ALLLLLLLLLA AAALLLLRIGHTT. Now look at
your countries now look at them really why they are following the JIHAD
word of the quran look where that is taking your people… JUST LOOK…
none sense …
“Alleged Hadith” the guy has never read Bukhari, therefore he is in no
position to say Muhammad never hit her.
He’s drawing from select biographies – including 20th century ones I
recognize in front of him – while he trashes Wood for using early sources,
to claim Muhammad’s character was spotless.
That he’s not aware of the hadith that shows Muhammad hitting her so hard
she was trying to catch her breath only shows the lack of actual research
he’s done into the religion.
Luckily I bumped into this data such as in Bukhari before I embraced Islam
because I VERY seriously considered embracing it in 1996 until I looked at
the other arguments against Islam to compare if they were substantive.
They are and Islam is disgusting.
The verse of Muhammad hitting Aisha exists, I’ve seen it. There’s also
another narration in Bukhari in which a woman complains to Muhammad her
husband beat her so hard she had green bruises and Muhammad said nothing of
it other than to take his side against her.
O MUSLIMS, READ YOUR OWN TRADITIONS BEFORE DEFENDING YOUR RELIGION.
in the last Moment… Ali just acted like mohammed ali (boxer)… he
thrashed david woods…with his words… i think mr. david’s philosophy
didnt worked out….!
Ali can’t debate with dignity. He arguments filled with point finger and
mocking at Christianity and David himself. I consider him as a bully in
this debate.
What I have learned from this debate is that ali is a very goob talker, he
can sure talk nonsense. …but the guy is al talk…..this debate is about
muhammad not about Christianity yet ali seems to forget why he is here
tonight. …ali doesn’t bring evidence to back hours talk. …yet…david
backs his argument with pure facts…..its sad Muslims have no good
argument
The bible is against risking your life in presumption, But if you are
tricked and someone puts poison in your drink and this is while they are
doing God’s work, God can perform a miracle and save them.
Zec_5:3 Then saidH559 he untoH413 me, ThisH2063 is the curseH423 that
goeth forthH3318 overH5921 the faceH6440 of the wholeH3605 earth:H776
forH3588 every oneH3605 that stealethH1589 shall be cut offH5352 as on this
sideH4480 H2088 according to it;H3644 and everyH3605 one that swearethH7650
shall be cut offH5352 as on that sideH4480 H2088 according to it.H3644
To be consistent, if you are going to find Muhammed in Scripture then you
should own the fact that Allah is also in Scripture as seen in the verse
above. The word CURSE H423 IS “ALAH” Is a Curse. Who is a curse – Satan!
(luke:4:9) what did the devil tricked atlas being understanding he cannot
defend to Him? Devil said to Jesus if you are the son of God, throw
yourself down from here. Then what did the Jesus replied to Him? It is same
like you devil if you would drink the poison then I will beleive it or
otherwise you wipe it. Is this crazy Muslim people question to the
non-muslims peoples who doesn’t know the true Bible?
David Wood definitely won this debate. He knew more about the Qu’an and
it’s mistakes than Ali knew about the bible. Now I know why they say
Mohammad has a split personality!
In the OT of the Bible and Quran we are dealing with a tribal god who looks
after the special interests of the tribe, giving victory in battle and
promising a settled homeland for desert nomads. This god then takes on more
universal and moral attributes, becoming seen as the creator of all things
and one who requires justice and mercy. The highest stage reached in the
Hebrew scriptures unlike that of the Quran, is that of the servant songs of
Isaiah, where God gives Israel a vocation, not to conquer, but to serve;
and where he does not wade in the blood of his enemies, but suffers with
the poor and oppressed. Islam therefore needs to be reminded of the
centrality of love in the divine nature. Islam needs to learn how to take
criticism without wanting to kill the critic: so that we may learn not just
to take the text as it stands, but to comprehend its multi-layered
development. In this way Christianity and Islam need to balance each other,
recalling faith to a simplicity which is founded squarely on love.
Ali ataei like you people satan tricked the Jesus, he said (luke:4:3)”if
you are the son of God, tell this stone to become bread. In other mean he
tricked to jesus being testing whether He is really son of God He would do
it and I see it. But you cannot tested To God. He know before you do it to
test me. This is how Muslim beleive to testify God and believe the Bible.
What did Jesus replied to Him? Can you acknowledge the God truth convince
you? Atlas the last temptation you see (luke:4:9)
Ali is claiming that a word in HEBREW, that on the surface looks like a
Arabic Word,
though Pronounced very differently, while the actual Passage in Song of
Songs is about Solomon and his Bride, is about Muhammad?
While AKBAR in Hebrew is MOUSE. It looks and Sounds IDENTICAL to the Arabic.
So by Ali’s Logic Allah is a Mouse?
Now how about looking in the Old Testament. That Contextually is Identified
as Prophecy. And is Specifically talking about a future person, with
Biblical Support.
While Ali wants to insert Muhammad into Solomons LUST FOR HIS WIFE.
There is very clear non Ambiguous support for Jesus.
Starting with Eve. Here Offspring would come the Messiah.
Abraham all people would be Blessed through his Offspring.
That God’s Promise was through Isaac.
That Jacobs Descendents would Come the Messiah.
Through Judah’s Descendents would come the Ruler.
The Prophet to Succeed Moses was Called JOSHUA
Through Jesse a Root Would Grow up from his Line.
A Son of David, his Descendent would come the Messiah.
A Branch would come from the line of David
The Branch would be a Netzar of the line of David.
Joshua the High Priest and his assosiates were symbolic of the Branch to
Come.
The Name of the Future Branch is the Same NAME as JOSHUA the HIGH PRIEST
this Branch will remove the sin of the land in a Single Day.
Daniel said 483 years after Artaxerxes decree in 456 BC (360 day years)
The Messiah would come and be killed and cut off.
The Angel Gabriel comes to Mary 450 years after Daniels Prophecy,
and Tells Mary and Joseph to NAME their child JOSHUA
Then you don’t say He is a God, God can tempted by satan. You becareful
when Jesus made flesh likeness us he wouldn’t act like God, He must acted
like human formed kind had. That mean He must walked with them, among them
may be they are good or bad, talk to them love to them. But all this how He
would do? He wanted the God life is manifested He had to show them. That is
why how He humbled till the death of His on the cross. He endured His God
kind life He had, he showed to the sinners.
Ali Ataie is embarrassing for Muslims. He doesn’t really answer to the
problems brought up by Mr. Wood. He just talks faster and faster, denies
the historical works of early Muslim scholars, and attacks Christianity.
This Ali again is Sniffing from a parable.. LOL He quote ” Luke 12:47″
which you must ready again the whole passage to understand it..Typical
Muslim..
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Eric Donofrio says:
December 24, 2014 at 7:19 pm (UTC 0)
okay… now all you Muslims listen close… plain an simple are son of god
JESUS was a peaceful man…. he did not lead army even in self defence…
example when the Romans came for him he deliberately gave himself up saying
its my time…….think of this…Jesus appears in the bible,tora and the
quran…Mohamed ONLY THE QURAN……….. some may say yah but mohamed came
after Christ… yea i know but guess what not a word of his coming was ever
mentioned NOT ONE……. Are Christ doesnt rape young girls 9 years or
younger….. And what miracles has your Mohamed done what miracles to be
called the son of GOD…. you Muslims have a FALSE SAVIOR…HE MAY have
been a messanger but NOT THE SON OF ALLLLLLLLLA AAALLLLRIGHTT. Now look at
your countries now look at them really why they are following the JIHAD
word of the quran look where that is taking your people… JUST LOOK…
none sense …
lmaoyourekiddingme says:
December 24, 2014 at 8:04 pm (UTC 0)
“Alleged Hadith” the guy has never read Bukhari, therefore he is in no
position to say Muhammad never hit her.
He’s drawing from select biographies – including 20th century ones I
recognize in front of him – while he trashes Wood for using early sources,
to claim Muhammad’s character was spotless.
That he’s not aware of the hadith that shows Muhammad hitting her so hard
she was trying to catch her breath only shows the lack of actual research
he’s done into the religion.
Luckily I bumped into this data such as in Bukhari before I embraced Islam
because I VERY seriously considered embracing it in 1996 until I looked at
the other arguments against Islam to compare if they were substantive.
They are and Islam is disgusting.
The verse of Muhammad hitting Aisha exists, I’ve seen it. There’s also
another narration in Bukhari in which a woman complains to Muhammad her
husband beat her so hard she had green bruises and Muhammad said nothing of
it other than to take his side against her.
O MUSLIMS, READ YOUR OWN TRADITIONS BEFORE DEFENDING YOUR RELIGION.
sergio constanza says:
December 24, 2014 at 8:45 pm (UTC 0)
Israel an apartheid state ? What a potz !
rashid khan says:
December 24, 2014 at 9:31 pm (UTC 0)
in the last Moment… Ali just acted like mohammed ali (boxer)… he
thrashed david woods…with his words… i think mr. david’s philosophy
didnt worked out….!
Frisco Sanry says:
December 24, 2014 at 10:08 pm (UTC 0)
Ali can’t debate with dignity. He arguments filled with point finger and
mocking at Christianity and David himself. I consider him as a bully in
this debate.
Debbie S. says:
December 24, 2014 at 10:58 pm (UTC 0)
This is the best Islam can offer?
GXSRpreper1 says:
December 24, 2014 at 11:28 pm (UTC 0)
What I have learned from this debate is that ali is a very goob talker, he
can sure talk nonsense. …but the guy is al talk…..this debate is about
muhammad not about Christianity yet ali seems to forget why he is here
tonight. …ali doesn’t bring evidence to back hours talk. …yet…david
backs his argument with pure facts…..its sad Muslims have no good
argument
Saxophone and Clarient - Austral says:
December 24, 2014 at 11:52 pm (UTC 0)
The bible is against risking your life in presumption, But if you are
tricked and someone puts poison in your drink and this is while they are
doing God’s work, God can perform a miracle and save them.
2012stvn says:
December 24, 2014 at 11:57 pm (UTC 0)
is the debate about mohamed of christian theology ?
Where is the moderator ?
Jay Scrim says:
December 25, 2014 at 12:07 am (UTC 0)
You know you have lost a debate when you resort to pointing figures at
another faith to justify the crummy things in your own faith
Jasho Beam says:
December 25, 2014 at 12:52 am (UTC 0)
Zec_5:3 Then saidH559 he untoH413 me, ThisH2063 is the curseH423 that
goeth forthH3318 overH5921 the faceH6440 of the wholeH3605 earth:H776
forH3588 every oneH3605 that stealethH1589 shall be cut offH5352 as on this
sideH4480 H2088 according to it;H3644 and everyH3605 one that swearethH7650
shall be cut offH5352 as on that sideH4480 H2088 according to it.H3644
To be consistent, if you are going to find Muhammed in Scripture then you
should own the fact that Allah is also in Scripture as seen in the verse
above. The word CURSE H423 IS “ALAH” Is a Curse. Who is a curse – Satan!
Jose Nunes says:
December 25, 2014 at 1:08 am (UTC 0)
(luke:4:9) what did the devil tricked atlas being understanding he cannot
defend to Him? Devil said to Jesus if you are the son of God, throw
yourself down from here. Then what did the Jesus replied to Him? It is same
like you devil if you would drink the poison then I will beleive it or
otherwise you wipe it. Is this crazy Muslim people question to the
non-muslims peoples who doesn’t know the true Bible?
France Filiault says:
December 25, 2014 at 2:01 am (UTC 0)
David Wood definitely won this debate. He knew more about the Qu’an and
it’s mistakes than Ali knew about the bible. Now I know why they say
Mohammad has a split personality!
Richard Johnson says:
December 25, 2014 at 2:21 am (UTC 0)
In the OT of the Bible and Quran we are dealing with a tribal god who looks
after the special interests of the tribe, giving victory in battle and
promising a settled homeland for desert nomads. This god then takes on more
universal and moral attributes, becoming seen as the creator of all things
and one who requires justice and mercy. The highest stage reached in the
Hebrew scriptures unlike that of the Quran, is that of the servant songs of
Isaiah, where God gives Israel a vocation, not to conquer, but to serve;
and where he does not wade in the blood of his enemies, but suffers with
the poor and oppressed. Islam therefore needs to be reminded of the
centrality of love in the divine nature. Islam needs to learn how to take
criticism without wanting to kill the critic: so that we may learn not just
to take the text as it stands, but to comprehend its multi-layered
development. In this way Christianity and Islam need to balance each other,
recalling faith to a simplicity which is founded squarely on love.
Jose Nunes says:
December 25, 2014 at 2:31 am (UTC 0)
Ali ataei like you people satan tricked the Jesus, he said (luke:4:3)”if
you are the son of God, tell this stone to become bread. In other mean he
tricked to jesus being testing whether He is really son of God He would do
it and I see it. But you cannot tested To God. He know before you do it to
test me. This is how Muslim beleive to testify God and believe the Bible.
What did Jesus replied to Him? Can you acknowledge the God truth convince
you? Atlas the last temptation you see (luke:4:9)
mr777davidben says:
December 25, 2014 at 2:52 am (UTC 0)
Genesis 15: 16In the fourth generation your descendants will come back
here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure.”
asmaa omer says:
December 25, 2014 at 3:13 am (UTC 0)
Muhammad s,a,w is the greatest man to walk on this earth.
Siegfried Gugg says:
December 25, 2014 at 3:22 am (UTC 0)
All the atrocities in the Bible are not practiced any more
but all that atrocities is in the quran are still practiced actually today
Travis D says:
December 25, 2014 at 3:51 am (UTC 0)
Ali is claiming that a word in HEBREW, that on the surface looks like a
Arabic Word,
though Pronounced very differently, while the actual Passage in Song of
Songs is about Solomon and his Bride, is about Muhammad?
While AKBAR in Hebrew is MOUSE. It looks and Sounds IDENTICAL to the Arabic.
So by Ali’s Logic Allah is a Mouse?
Now how about looking in the Old Testament. That Contextually is Identified
as Prophecy. And is Specifically talking about a future person, with
Biblical Support.
While Ali wants to insert Muhammad into Solomons LUST FOR HIS WIFE.
There is very clear non Ambiguous support for Jesus.
Starting with Eve. Here Offspring would come the Messiah.
Abraham all people would be Blessed through his Offspring.
That God’s Promise was through Isaac.
That Jacobs Descendents would Come the Messiah.
Through Judah’s Descendents would come the Ruler.
The Prophet to Succeed Moses was Called JOSHUA
Through Jesse a Root Would Grow up from his Line.
A Son of David, his Descendent would come the Messiah.
A Branch would come from the line of David
The Branch would be a Netzar of the line of David.
Joshua the High Priest and his assosiates were symbolic of the Branch to
Come.
The Name of the Future Branch is the Same NAME as JOSHUA the HIGH PRIEST
this Branch will remove the sin of the land in a Single Day.
Daniel said 483 years after Artaxerxes decree in 456 BC (360 day years)
The Messiah would come and be killed and cut off.
The Angel Gabriel comes to Mary 450 years after Daniels Prophecy,
and Tells Mary and Joseph to NAME their child JOSHUA
Saxophone and Clarient - Austral says:
December 25, 2014 at 4:07 am (UTC 0)
God sustains our lives. He can take it away.
Jose Nunes says:
December 25, 2014 at 4:48 am (UTC 0)
Then you don’t say He is a God, God can tempted by satan. You becareful
when Jesus made flesh likeness us he wouldn’t act like God, He must acted
like human formed kind had. That mean He must walked with them, among them
may be they are good or bad, talk to them love to them. But all this how He
would do? He wanted the God life is manifested He had to show them. That is
why how He humbled till the death of His on the cross. He endured His God
kind life He had, he showed to the sinners.
Daniel Hwang says:
December 25, 2014 at 5:00 am (UTC 0)
Ali Ataie is embarrassing for Muslims. He doesn’t really answer to the
problems brought up by Mr. Wood. He just talks faster and faster, denies
the historical works of early Muslim scholars, and attacks Christianity.
Moshe dayan Vivas says:
December 25, 2014 at 5:55 am (UTC 0)
This Ali again is Sniffing from a parable.. LOL He quote ” Luke 12:47″
which you must ready again the whole passage to understand it..Typical
Muslim..
Shifa Shawk says:
December 25, 2014 at 6:28 am (UTC 0)
Ali Ataie is superb. Although David Wood is quite literate but Mr. Ali
bested him, in my opinion.
Bhuvanesh Arumugam says:
December 25, 2014 at 6:39 am (UTC 0)
david wood is too cool for this guy…………