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does quran say fight the disbelievers because they are disbelievers shadid lewis crushes david wood and robert spencer on 9:29 shadid lewis puts an end to david woods claim on 9:29 david…
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  1. Truth Of Islam says:

    Unjustifiable opposition?? Like not believing in their God?? LOL 

  2. aajjaar sin says:

    Bro.. later verses are about killing the disbelievers because they
    disbelieve in Allah…simple clear cut..cannot be twisted and they are
    supported by hadiths…and please see whats going on with ISIS….god
    forgive you for questioning what Allah clearly wants to be done..yoyr a
    fakir.

  3. OneWorldShariah says:

    Quran chaptir 5 v82

    You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the
    believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah ; and
    you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who
    say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and monks
    and because they are not arrogant.

    

  4. ashtekaros says:

    abrogation is not accepted by all muslim schools and is not cited directly
    in the quran. Its cited only indirectly. If abrogation did really exist in
    the exact way anti-muslim say, the quran would not contain the “abrogated”
    verses.

    the mutazilla (mainly sunni) school and the zaidi school (shia) ,for
    example, REEJECT the concept of abrogation. Hating islam is useless. Islam
    has come to stay, but islam should be reformed.

  5. Shu says:

    what david wood did was already explained in surah 9 (At Taubah) ayat/verse
    30, 31, 32 & 33.

  6. AussieJ764 says:

    I watched both debates with wood’s and Spencer, at no time is the fact that
    many verses have been abrogated brought into it, yes the verses this Shadid
    quotes here are peaceful, but when you replace them with the abrogated
    verses and the hadiths, how these verses were implemented you get an
    entirely different picture.

  7. MarruecosMan says:

    The verse 9:29 was revealed when Byzantinians who were christians attacked
    Muslims and killed prophet adopted son and first cousin and countless
    Muslims- The verse does not say fight them because they dod not believe in
    Allah. The verse just describe and mentions what these people are doing
    and what they disbelieve. for example you live in neighborhood where there
    is big criminal who is engaged in selling drugs prostitution robberies and
    you know that but you never bother him but one day this criminal killed
    your son so you decide to punish him and you gathered your sons and told
    them fight this pimp this drug dealer this thief , are you to argue that
    you are fighting him because of his criminal activities the answer is
    NOOOOOOO the reason because he killed my son. prophet Muhamed did not
    attack Byzantinians he rather sent them invitation to Islam 

  8. islamophobia says:

    Larry Singleton; A person’s own opinion is exactly that, their opinion. Do
    you really think every Muslim on the planet is out for waging war? If
    that’s the logic you’ve derived, it’s definitely flawed because out of the
    1.6 billion Muslims, a small percentage are involved in the absurdity of
    terrorism. Terrorism contradicts the peaceful message of the Qur’aan and
    authentic traditions of the Prophet Muhammad and all of the Prophets and
    Messengers of God before him – peace be on them all).

    I do believe there are terrible people out there who call themselves
    Muslims, but if we are to scrutinize these people, you’ll see that their
    agendas are not about Islam, it’s about their own selfish desires.

  9. MUHAMMAD TOP VISION ISLAMIC DAWAH SQUAD says:

    ⛔✋STUPID QUESTION & ALLEGATION⛔✋
    ☛How Should Jews & Christains be treated according to Quran❔❕❕❕☚
    “With kindness & patience” OR “By Fighting against them”

    2:109 “Many of the people of the Scripture long to make you
    disbelievers…. Forgive and be indulgent (towards them) UNTIL ALLAH GIVES
    COMMAND (TO FIGHT AGAINST THEM).”

    9:29 “Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as
    believe not in Allah.”

    ☛WHY DON’T YOU READ THE WHOLE VERSE ALONG WITH THE CONTEXT???☚::: : )

    ★REFUTATION★WITH PROOFS☛☛The Quran was revealed based on events for 23
    years. The verse 2:109 is talking about the treatment of the Jews &
    Christians in general & ALSO HAS THE PHRASE AT THE END “UNTIL ALLAH GIVES
    COMMAND (TO FIGHT AGAINST THEM). So any time Allah talks about “fighting
    against them”, then that “FIGHTING COMMAND” in 9:29 & many other Verses
    does NOT contradict the “KIND TREATMENT COMMAND” in 2:109.☚ : )

    ☛BUT☚

    ★REFUTATION★WITH COMMON SENSE☛☛Verse 9:29 is talking about a situation
    where the rulers of the Jewish & Christian states are preventing the people
    from having the free will to choose their religion & worship God as they
    believe is correct.☚

    THERE ARE MANY AUTHENTIC HADITHS SUPPORTING THE QURANIC CONTEXTS

    ★★☛__NO CONTRADICTION__Use common sense❕❕❕✅__

  10. Quran or Bible says:

    david wood on 9:29 destroyed
    bro shadid lewis hammers david wood 

  11. MUHAMMAD TOP VISION ISLAMIC DAWAH SQUAD says:

    ☛⛔✋STUPID QUESTION & ALLEGATION⛔✋☛Don’t the Quranic Verses 5:82 – 83 & 5:51
    contradict each other?❔❕❕❕☚

    ☛5:82. Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the
    believers (Muslims) the Jews & those who are Al-Mushrikun (see V.2:105), &
    you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say:
    “We are Christians.” That is because AMONGST THEM are priests & monks, &
    they are not proud.

    ☛83. And when they (SUCH Christian priests & monks) listen to what has been
    sent down to the Messenger (Muhammad ), you see their eyes overflowing with
    tears because of the truth they have recognized. They say: “Our Lord! We
    believe; so write us down among the witnesses.

    ☛5:51. O you who believe! Take not the Jews & the Christians as Auliya’
    (GUARDIANS), they are but Auliya’ to one another. And if any amongst you
    takes them as Auliya’, then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides
    not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists & wrong-doers).

    ☛★REFUTATION★WITH COMMON SENSE☛WHY DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THE SIMPLE CONTEXT
    OF 5:82-83??? THE VERSE ENDS BY GIVING THE REASON WHY “CHRISTIANS” ARE
    “the nearest in love to the Believers (Muslims)”

    ☛THE REASON IS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE PRIESTS & MONKS WHO ARE NOT
    ARROGANT☛SO 5:82 – 83 TALK ABOUT “ONLY SOME CHRISTIANS” NOT “ALL
    CHRISTIANS” BECAUSE THE VERSE SAYS “That is because AMONGST THEM are
    priests & monks…”

    ✋⛔NO CONTRADICTION===USE COMMON SENSE❕❕❕

    ★REFUTATION★WITH PROOFS☛THE ARABIC WORD “auliyaa” IN THIS CONTEXT ACTUALLY
    MEANS “guardians or protectors” NOT “friends”===IF YOU DON’T KNOW ARABIC,
    THEN DON’T COMMENT ON THE GLORIOUS QURAN!!! PROPHET MUHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON
    HIM HAD MANY “CHRISTIAN FRIENDS” WITH WHOM HE USED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS;
    HOWEVER, NONE OF THEM WERE “auliyaa” OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD★★

    ✋⛔NO CONTRADICTION===USE COMMON SENSE❕❕❕ : ) : )

  12. Larry Singleton says:

    If Woods and Spencer aren’t telling the truth why are they backed up by the
    Muslims own “holy” books and religious leaders: Sheikh Abdullah bin
    Humaid’s article on jihad I found in my Summarized Bukhari almost as an
    Introduction! and “jihad” in Reliance of the Traveller. Why is the
    “greater” jihad mentioned only once and never cited again? Nobody has ever
    been able to clear this up for me. EVER. Compare these with Emmet Fox’s
    Sermon on the Mount and tell me where you see “Love Thy Neighbor”.

  13. madsmadser says:

    According to the orthodox Sunni schools of Islamic Jurisprudence (whose
    views are taught at public universities in the Muslim world), the Muslim
    community is obligated to fight non-Muslims, even when they are in their
    own country, to spread Islam. Just read ‘The Reliance of the Traveller’
    (Shafi’i), ‘The Hedaya’ (Hanafi), ‘al-Risala’ (Maliki), and ‘The
    Distinguished Jurist’s Primer’, vol 1 (describes both Shafi’i and Maliki
    views).

  14. Muslim4life76 says:

    ur a filthy lying devil ur a coward meet me up say it 2 my face if u dont
    ur a coward or il track where u live then il inbox ur address then say it

  15. Larry Singleton says:

    Hell, why isn’t Humaid’s article ever cited as an example of Islam as a
    “religion of peace”?

  16. Muslim4life76 says:

    so this hadith says “Allah will not be merciful to those who are not
    merciful to mankind.”” so therefore 60:8 is telling us to be kind to people
    including non muslims 60:9 Allah only forbids you from those who fight you
    because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion
    – [forbids] that you make allies of them. so if they arent fighting u then
    the quran says ” ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them.
    Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers.”

  17. Frank McEvoy says:

    Which prison did this low IQ primate convert from?

  18. Larry Singleton says:

    And maybe you can explain “abrogation” when it comes to verses in the Koran.

  19. Muslim4life76 says:

    show me wht the quran and hadith say , the quran says 60:8 “Allah
    forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion
    and drove you not out from your homes, that YE SHOULD SHOW THEM KINDNESS
    and deal JUSTLY with them. Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers.” 2:208 “O you
    who have believed, enter into PEACE completely [and perfectly] and do not
    follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy” chapter
    2 was revealed whent he muslims had the upper hand

  20. Larry Singleton says:

    The “racist” and “bigoted” claims he’s talking about is when people talk
    about “RADICAL” Islam! The fact that Christians and Buddhists aren’t
    murdering people and waving their holy books above their head while they’re
    doing it. They’re also not encouraging CHILDREN to cut off the heads of
    unbelievers that you can easily access on the Internet. What’s strange
    Lewis is you and your ilk never EVER cite EXACTLY what “hateful” and
    “bigoted” things Woods and Spencer have said. Con’t

  21. Larry Singleton says:

    Or “Peace on Earth and Goodwill Towards Man, (Jews and Christians)”. Can
    you find ANYTHING like these in Islamic “holy” books? I’ve read Taha’s
    Second Message. I can’t even find it in there. He ends up citing jihad as a
    “surgeons tool rather than a butcher knife”. Read Slavery, Terrorism and
    Islam by Peter Hammond (and Holocaust in Rwanda) and The “Legacy” books by
    Andrew G. Bostom.

  22. Muslim4life76 says:

    ur just a lying devil u see when we refute u , u insult because ur a devil
    coward looser they were not abrogated u filthy coward

  23. Larry Singleton says:

    I’m looking at my Qur’an with Commentary. Gee, you don’t mention that
    inconvenient part about the “ultimate triumph of Islam in the whole world”.
    Or the Shafi’i manual of Islamic law that says to “make war upon the Jews,
    Christians…..until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll
    tax”. Nope nothing about that in your little speech. My copy even talks
    about how Christians gladly “accepted the message of truth”. Give me a
    break. Read the story on the cover art of Bostoms Legacy book.

  24. Muslim4life76 says:

    Narrated Asma bint Abu Bakr (RA): My mother came to me during the lifetime
    of Allah’s Messenger (PBUH) and she was a ‘Mushrikah’. I said to Prophet,
    “My mother has come to me and she desires to receive a reward from me,
    shall I keep good relations with her?” The Prophet (PBUH) said, “Yes, keep
    good relation with her.”

  25. Bruce Berry says:

    “Allah loves those who deal with equity” Really? Where is there equity in
    the Jews and gentiles having to pay jizya tax? But not Muslims? Did Allah
    create religions?

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